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February 9th, 2010 Leave a comment Go to comments

Okay, so it looks like things have come to an ending with both Crystal’s StorySite and FictionMania. Both have stopped accepting new submissions, and in some cases have turned off critical functions such as forum posting.

I have to say in some ways I’m relieved. People can calm down now and allow things to settle some. But it is up in the air as to whether Crystal’s StorySite will continue as it is. FictionMania has made their position clear (in their own way.)

For those of you who aren’t current on the flamewar, basically it comes to one person’s stories.

FictionMania has long had a reputation for being the toilet of TG fiction. They will take anything and post it as long as there is a passing reference to Transgenderism or Crossdressing. The story that started this was a story about an 8 year old who was in a dress and having sex with full grown adult males. Apparently in the story, the 8 year old enjoyed it.

The author has somewhat (backhandedly) apologized for starting this problem. Other authors attempted to convince Crystal to remove the story from her site since they didn’t want the reputation of StorySite being ruined by the inclusion of this kind of story. Some of the rallying cries were “let trash like this be in the trailerpark of FictionMania”.

As you might expect, this caused an uproar on both sites. Three days later, we have an admin of StorySite who had a nervous breakdown and couldn’t handle the pressure, turn off the server containing new stories and most of the critical update functions for StorySite, another site which basically says “I don’t care what is up here”.

I just saw “official” word from Crystal saying that she was appalled and not sure if StorySite would continue. Not by the story that started it all, mind you, but by the debate and flamewar that occurred on her site’s forum. The ability to post there has been turned off.

You can still see the stories there if you removed any reference to “two or 2″ from the URLs, but everything is several years old there. Some authors have requested for their stories to be removed from these sites, so that they are not associated with child pornography (which the originating story definitely is).

So now we have a few alternatives. Go to a pay site like TGFiction, stay with sites like BigCloset and TopShelf and Stardust, create your own archive of stories and post them all there. And this is a very sad state of affairs indeed.

I’m sad things have come to this. I’m sad that problems have caused this fracture. My offer to host stories for authors who are leaving those sites still stands. This will remain a free site. I will even build a new site, complete with URL to host others stories if there is enough call for this.

I’m not really happy about all this, but there’s not a lot I can do. I’ve made my opinion plain as I can, and I stand by it.

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Mini-Biography:  Joy is a transvestite who has been using her stories as a form of therapy. At this point she has no desire to undergo the full transition, but that might change some day. Read more about her story at My Story on this site.

  1. avatar
    princess aka Josie
    February 9th, 2010 at 18:28 | #1

    Hi Joy,
    It is sad, but I am very afraid we are rapidly entering the new, old age of censorship. People need to wake up quickly or things will spiral out of control. When I don’t like something, I don’t read it; I don’t protest it.
    There are many authors on both of those sites that you could not pay me to read their material. I am totally uninterested in anything relating to children. That is my choice and my decision; others should not decide what I can and can’t read though. Don’t people realize this is a fiction site?
    I also don’t read materials written by Nazi’s who are very fond of censorship. Always remember book burnings and worst are not far behind.

    ENOUGH of that; I love your new series “Maid to be a Man?” Well done Joy. I appreciate writers who can write!

    Take care

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    February 10th, 2010 at 02:47 | #2

    I agree with the comment about censorship, up to a point. There has to be limits and in my mind sex and the abuse of minors is one, of course there will always be sites that are prepared to “publish and be damned” but hopefully not the reputable ones. Writers have a responsibility to their readership but also to the larger community – take Salman Rushdie, his purpose was to shock and make name for himself, distressing thousands in the process.

    “Always remember book burnings and worst are not far behind”

    I don’t believe that this is the likely scenario; look at the progress in films and literature over the past hundred years, “Lady Chatterley’s Lover” originally published in Florence in 1928 but banned in the UK until 1960. I don’t think that we need another Mary Whitehouse but discussions and the founding of the National Viewers’ and Listeners’ Association regarding what is right was and is valuable.

    Progress has been made and the liberties gained should be valued and not squandered by mindless individuals out to cause offence.

    I agree about “Maid to be a Man” a wonderful story and look forward to reading more.

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    Samantha Michelle
    February 10th, 2010 at 15:55 | #3

    I’m with Joy on this. The use of the word Censorship is sometimes emotive and taken wholly out of context.
    Is it Censorship that a story that might be front page in the National Enquirer it never even mentioned in the NYT. Is is Censorship that a story about a traffic Accident in Manchester NH is not covered in the Tampa Bay Gazette?
    It is all about the publications target audience. If your target audience do not want excessive violence, kiddie porn or even hard core adult porn then that surely is the perogative of that publication. An internet site is just like any traditional dead tree publication in that respect.

    I’m all for a site where people who like to write creative and imaginative stories can be published. I for one do not want endless reruns of forced feminisation & Bad Boy to Good Girl.
    I’ve published my work on both StorySite & Fictionmania in the past but I will not be adding any more.
    If you want to see where I’m coming from then take look at two of mine.
    “Girl on a Motorcycle” & “Do Wah Diddy Diddy Dum” on Storysite. I dare you to fit those into the categories I don’t like!

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    February 10th, 2010 at 17:58 | #4

    I think that you are missing the point, or just being argumentative, it isn’t about censorship of news and views but what is legal; the last time I looked sex and or the abuse of a minor, or promoting these acts was still illegal, or perhaps not in your alternative universe. It isn’t about “if you don’t like it then don’t read it” but authors condoning illegal and disgusting acts. The litmus test is would I want a friend’s child or my own child to be subjected to these acts?

  5. February 10th, 2010 at 18:09 | #5

    May I interject that this is not the venue to be discussing this. It has been roundly discussed on other sites and always turned into a large hole of disagreement.

    If both you want, I can set up a forum on this site and you both can has it out there as much as you want. Or you can do it in email, since that is linked with your profiles.

    (Just trying to not have happen here what has happened in other places.)

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    March 4th, 2010 at 20:10 | #6

    You are wrong concerning Fictionmania.com they continue to accept new submissions and have done since the last dissapearance. Not as many new stories on a daily basis as there use to be but still people are posting new stories on a regular basis

    Anyway it comes down to reading the warning “You absolutely have to be over the Legal age as defined by the laws of the city, town, township, community, county, state, providence or country you live in or are operating your computer from and have the legal right to possess adult material. And understand the standards and laws of the city, town, township, community, county, state, providence or country, site, computer and internet service provider to which you are transporting this material, and understand you are solely responsible for your actions before proceeding ”

    and most stories contain a disclaimer, if you dfidn’t like that then don’t read further GEESH!!!

    However if it is the story im thinking of, i made a negative comment about it and 2 days later Fictionmania went down for a month, the writer has since written 40 chapters and posted at least 30 on both sites so there goes that theory. Crystals Story Site has obviously stopped recieveing new stories which doesn’t bother me, that site was horribly complicated to search for what you want

    you can still add SissyKiss to the list of free story sites, though new submissions on that aren’t often and if they are they are just short stories

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    December 14th, 2010 at 12:51 | #7

    As far as I can see Crystal’s is now down for good.

  8. December 14th, 2010 at 14:19 | #8

    That really is a shame. I liked her site and I liked the way it was laid out. But if you can’t read what is there, it’s of no use to anyone.

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    October 31st, 2011 at 14:56 | #9

    It appears that it is really and finally the end for Crystal’s. The site’s been down for about a week with no sign of returning in any form. Thanks for nothing all of you self righteous sissies.

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